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Post by Agabus Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:42 pm

pa help namn po sa skills na dapat ko lagyan. d ko alam pa about RG's.

suggested build ni sir Venz is:
Str: 89
Agi: 70
Vit: 120
Dex: 75
Luk: 61

skill ATM:
1st job:
Sword Master 10
HP Recovery 10
Bash 10
Provoke 10
Endure 9

2nd job:
Spear Mastery 10
Peco Peco Ride 1
Cavalier Mastery 10
Faith 10
Auto Guard 5
Shield Charge 3
Shield Boomerang 5
Reflect Shield 10
Holy Cross 6
Grand Cross 4
Sacrifice 4
Spear Quicken 10
Pressure 5
Martyr's Reckoning 5
Rapid Smithing 5

3rd job:
??????

kung kelangan mag reset skills, cge po.





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Post by MagneXXII Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:52 pm

Anong type ng RG target mo? What role do you want to play in WOE?

I don't recommend low-INT builds because of:
- low cast-time reduction (bad for devo-type RG's),
- low resistance against frozen status; making Unfrozen armor (or similar) necessary,
- low resistance against other status effects like Deep Sleep, AFAIK,
- heavy reliance on SP items (high SP usage of 3rd job spear skills which you'll be spamming more often than not, if you go the path of the offensive spear-type RG). >>> you can ignore this if you're OK with spending a lot on ROK points.

Yung skillbuild mo sa Paladin sir lagpas2x sa skillpoints; total skillpoints ng skillset mo is 93(?) kung tama computation ko. Max lvl ng cavalry mastery btw is 5.
Try this skill simulator for transcendent jobs. Compare mo rin sa skilltree in-game, because I'm not sure if that simulator is updated with changes due to Renewal.

Some tips you may find useful (unless ok sayo ang Hybrid-type na RG):
- Kung sacri/devo type ang target mo (support), tanggalin mo na spear-skills (spear quicken/mastery), even Cavalry Mastery kung pure support-type.
- Kung speartype/battletype RG ang target mo, don't get HC+GC+Sacrifice and AFAIK Pressure. Hindi kasya sa skillpoints and battletype builds aren't very effective in support anyway.

Once the skill simulator for 3rd jobs go up, I'll post it here. You may also want to check our forums, IIRC pnost na ni GM-Chi yung link before.

Tell us what kind of RG you want, and/or what role you want to play during WOE; and we'll help you build it.
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Post by Agabus Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:48 pm

ay. mali ung Cav. Mastery. bale ung ibang skill point nyan sir is nakuha ko na nung naging 3rd job na ako. bale used na ang ibang skills points ko sa 3rd job ko.

bale sabi ni sir Venz kac hybrid na ung stats ng RG ko.

I returned playing wala pa nag 1month. Paladin palang level 84.

indi ako nag lagay ng stats dahil nga indi ko na alam ung next step since meron na 3rd job. e2 ung stats ko nung bumalik ako sa pagllaro.

Str: 30
Agi: 70
Vit: 90
Int: 1
Dex: 30
Luk: 1

stats ko ngaun. as suggested by sir Venz nga.

Str: 55
Agi: 70
Vit: 114
Int: 1
Dex: 55
Luk: 51

d ko rin alam nun na meron pala reset stats nung dumating Renewal. sana meron. gusto ko tulad nung sau sir Magne :))

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Post by MagneXXII Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:34 am

I see.. hmm sir since ganyan na stats mo, IMHO mas effective kung gagawin mo nang battletype RG, spear-based (but you'll need to reset your skills -- can't confirm this at the moment kasi down ung skill simulator site). May LUK so suitable ang RG mo sa Exceed Break type.. Tanker due to high VIT. Sa stats, OK yung suggestion ni Venz - sarado stats and magiging battletype/tank RG mo.

Sa skills - with your current statbuild, since may Sacrifice/Devo ka na, you can pursue the Devotionist path with 120 VIT (pero you will not be as effective since mataas casttime ng build mo with 1 INT, mid DEX -- but that is usually how hybrid builds go) and get some supporting skills (like Piety / Prestige) OR again you can neuralize your RG and focus on offensive skills (spear-based) and ignore HC+GC+Sacrifice.

Right now, we have four WOE-active RG's (Venz, Damien, Car, and me). AFAIK devo-type si Venz (not sure kung hybrid since nag RS siya = mid/high STR), battletype si Damien, si Car pure battletype spear-based, and pure devo/shield type ako. So atm since even yung playing field, it's up to you which role you want to pursue with your RG.

EDIT: I'm at work atm, and our trusted skill simulator site is down.. kaya hindi ako makabigay ng suggested skilltree / skills to get, based on your current skillset.. pero I'll check your build in-game nalang and help you with your skills. Ano na mga RG skills na nakuwa mo? And what is your current job level?
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Post by norielle20 Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:36 am

ako din po pa help anu lalagyn ko skill sa RG ko na skill
ang build ko po eh

str 74
vit 80
int 80
dex 60

skill build 1st job
provoke 10
bash 10
magnum 5
endure 10

2nd job
faith 10
guard 10
spear mastery 1
holy cross 6
smite 3
cavelry 5
GC 5
spear bomerang 5
shield reflect 5
defending aura 5
sacri 5
gloria domi 3
rapid smiting 5

3rd job ala pa po


lvl 107 plang po
anu po b mgandang gamit na isuot ko at anu skill pamplvl?
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Post by MagneXXII Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:47 pm

Ok build mo sir png devo-type na pwede maging aggressive lalo na pag may minstrel. :)

Utilize mo yung RS for levelling-purposes, may INT ka naman so pwede mo siyang gawin na primary skill and sufficient STR para maging effective RS mo, pero hindi kaya mag 1-hit nyan.
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Post by norielle20 Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:49 pm

ilan po b mganda str pra sa RS at anu po lalagyn ko sa 3rd job skill ko? n pde pamplvl?
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Post by MagneXXII Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:21 pm

Wala kng spear mastery so assume ko na hindi ka kukuwa ng RG spear-skills? Total STR: 100 para efficient yung RS pero current STR mo ok naman for devo-type (medyo mataas for pure devo).

RG skills na makakatulong sa levelling:
1. Shield Spell - must have
2. Shield Press - high stun chance + moderate damage @ max lvl
3. Reflect Damage - anti-mob / reflect-style solo-levelling
4. Vanguard Force - additional MHP
5. Prestige - additional DEF + magic flee


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Post by norielle20 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:25 pm

si sir venz po naglgay ng skill tree ko tpos nireset ko lng stats ko kci 60 str lng ako dati kea gnwa ko lng 80 hina kci ng RS
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Post by MagneXXII Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:31 pm

^updated my post bro pa-check nalang. Inspiration-path ba yung skilltree na bigay ni Venz? If yes, ok yun for devo-types juggle mo between Prestige and Inspiration. Offensive skills mo nun is RS + Genesis Ray.
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Post by norielle20 Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:28 pm

san po nklgay ndi ko po kci mkita hehe
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Post by LadyAugustXXII Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:45 am

RG skills na makakatulong sa levelling:
1. Shield Spell - must have
2. Shield Press - high stun chance + moderate damage @ max lvl
3. Reflect Damage - anti-mob / reflect-style solo-levelling
4. Vanguard Force - additional MHP
5. Prestige - additional DEF + magic flee
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Post by caspertheghost Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:10 am

paturo naman po ung RS,GR type n RG :D

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Post by MagneXXII Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:46 am

^kyan GR damage nakabase sa ATK/MATK so STR/INT pero kailangan naka Inspiration para ma-cast. 90s lang inspi tapos 5mins cooldown so bihira mo magagamit to hehehe.

Damage ng RS nakabase primarily sa STR, Shield upgrade level + weight, Weapon cards (racial palang ang confirmed ko na gumagana sa RS), eqATK. Baka meron pa, yan lang sure ko.
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Post by jayron1 Fri May 06, 2011 7:15 pm

Pa help po want q po sana ng accessory na may bad stats pag na hit po aq accessory po sana and card thx pooo

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Post by cipher02 Sat May 07, 2011 12:31 am

you can try cursed hand with an owl baron card.. ^_^
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Post by MagneXXII Mon May 09, 2011 7:39 am

^+1!!
Hirap nga lang bumili, rare ata siya? Sa suggestion ni GM, L2 Fatal Wound + Lex Aeterna yan (pag naka reflect).
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Post by kingpOt Mon May 09, 2011 12:55 pm

^ ang sakit nmn pag ganyan koya magne! @_@
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