SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
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SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
Self Destruction
The secret to a powerful SD is mathematically derived from these:
"(Remaining Sp +vit)*20*skilllvl/3*baselvl/100 +Remaining Hp - enemydef"
For those aspiring mechs, you might want to consider this formula as SD is a very powerful skill when used in a timely manner and a very strategic approach. Its not just SDing all the time, you've got to feel the rhythm.
- Max LV: 3
- Prerequisites: Mainframe Restructure LV 2
- Type: Active / Damage
- Target: Self
- Description: Detonates the Magic Gear dealing large damage in a wide radius. When using the skill, you lose Magic Gear status, and your SP is completely consumed.
Skill Level 1 2 3 Radius 5x5 cells 7x7 cells 9x9 cells SP Cost 200 200 200 Cast Time 3.5s(Fixed) 3s(Fixed) 2.5s(Fixed) Cast Delay none Re-use Delay none
The secret to a powerful SD is mathematically derived from these:
"(Remaining Sp +vit)*20*skilllvl/3*baselvl/100 +Remaining Hp - enemydef"
For those aspiring mechs, you might want to consider this formula as SD is a very powerful skill when used in a timely manner and a very strategic approach. Its not just SDing all the time, you've got to feel the rhythm.
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
^so kung accurate yung formula na yan, pag may mechanic na nag cast ng SD sa tabi niyo at hindi na kayo makakalayo, hit the mecha will all you've got (strongest skill niyo; i.e. EF, SB para mabawasan HP and Pressure for Paladins / RG's para mabawasan SP) para humina damage ng Suicidal Destruction niya.
Take note: sage-class skill "Spellbreak" cancels Suicidal Destruction.
Take note: sage-class skill "Spellbreak" cancels Suicidal Destruction.
MagneXXII- Prime Council
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Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
testing ng computation...
lvl 150/25 na mech...(build ng mech ko)
95str,40int,99agi,80dex,95vit,56luk...
glorious set(suit,muffler,shoes at 2 ring)
36813 life, 1089 sp...
(900 remaining sp + 95vit)*20*3/3*150/100+36813-enemydef=?
kung halimbawa 900 nlng sp,tpos walang nkadamage sakin or nagbuns ako bago sumabog un SD ko ang bawas ko ay....
66,663...kayo na po bahala mag minus ng def nyo...hehe
example lng yan...hehe eh panu kaya yun build n 120 int at 120 vit...awts...hehehehehehe
lvl 150/25 na mech...(build ng mech ko)
95str,40int,99agi,80dex,95vit,56luk...
glorious set(suit,muffler,shoes at 2 ring)
36813 life, 1089 sp...
(900 remaining sp + 95vit)*20*3/3*150/100+36813-enemydef=?
kung halimbawa 900 nlng sp,tpos walang nkadamage sakin or nagbuns ako bago sumabog un SD ko ang bawas ko ay....
66,663...kayo na po bahala mag minus ng def nyo...hehe
example lng yan...hehe eh panu kaya yun build n 120 int at 120 vit...awts...hehehehehehe
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
^Wahaha thanks sa sample computation rJo! Sakit talaga ng SD amp. Lalo na kung naka TGK.
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LadyAugustXXII- Prime Council
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Join date : 2010-01-02
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
unga kuya..hehe kaya si katie dependent na sa TGK nya(sabe nya)...khit siguro hindi puno ang buhay mo nun eh...hehe
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
another version of SD damage...
150/25 ulit...
5str,120int,120vit,80dex,1luk,1agi
tidal set na green ferus,tpos valk TGK un suit, 2ng Glorious ring...
68745 hp, 1707 sp...
(1500 remaining sp + 120vit)*20*3/3*150/100+65000-enemy def=?
bawas ang SP at ang HP...now lets see the damage....
113,600 damage LANG NAMAN!!!hehe
ipalevel mo ng manual,may agi at str..tpos pag150 na wait k lng ng stat reset..hehe reset mo ng 120int at 120vit...tpos un skills eh SD,arm cannon,cold slower at magnetic field...hehe
paglabas ng nagEcall,sabay magnetic field...SD..hehe walang mkakatira sau..hehe BOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!
150/25 ulit...
5str,120int,120vit,80dex,1luk,1agi
tidal set na green ferus,tpos valk TGK un suit, 2ng Glorious ring...
68745 hp, 1707 sp...
(1500 remaining sp + 120vit)*20*3/3*150/100+65000-enemy def=?
bawas ang SP at ang HP...now lets see the damage....
113,600 damage LANG NAMAN!!!hehe
ipalevel mo ng manual,may agi at str..tpos pag150 na wait k lng ng stat reset..hehe reset mo ng 120int at 120vit...tpos un skills eh SD,arm cannon,cold slower at magnetic field...hehe
paglabas ng nagEcall,sabay magnetic field...SD..hehe walang mkakatira sau..hehe BOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
pano ba magpalvl kung INT VIT DEX ka agad?
Agabus- Miles
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Join date : 2011-03-02
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
@rJo: wahaha guild killer talaga shet
@aga: bakit pre gawa ka mecha? sa tingin ko may skill siya na hindi dependent sa STR yung damage so pwede magamit for levelling purposes.
@aga: bakit pre gawa ka mecha? sa tingin ko may skill siya na hindi dependent sa STR yung damage so pwede magamit for levelling purposes.
MagneXXII- Prime Council
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Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
@kuya magne: literal eh nu, "GUILD KILLER"..isang buong guild na na-EcaLL..hehe
@aga: yup,meron nga xa skill na hindit str dependent...un mga skill ng mado alam ko hindi dependent sa str un..pki chek nlng din sa thread ng forums ng pRO...hehe
@aga: yup,meron nga xa skill na hindit str dependent...un mga skill ng mado alam ko hindi dependent sa str un..pki chek nlng din sa thread ng forums ng pRO...hehe
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
@rjo.. okies sna ung ganung build but i am not recommending it kasi u dont choose Suicidal Destruction as your primary skill.. ang effectiveness ng SD ay dependent sa situation, location at timing ng SD.. plus, may cast time ang sd so dex is really needed, putting too much int ant vit sa stats wud hurt other attributes making the skill ineffective if not useless... u also need to consider str para mautilize mu ang ibang skills na i feel useful such as arm cannon and ice launcher (aka cold slower).. a bit of agi can be added para nman sa effectiveness ng cart termination if in case tapos mu ng gamitin ang SD..
what i suggest is for the build to be more geared towards the support group dahil MADO mechs were designed para maging support characters...
the right combos on skills would give a lot of openings para makapag sd ka so i suggest na mag alot ng stats for other attributes..
what i suggest is for the build to be more geared towards the support group dahil MADO mechs were designed para maging support characters...
the right combos on skills would give a lot of openings para makapag sd ka so i suggest na mag alot ng stats for other attributes..
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HEHE kaya nga po hindi pure int at vit ang mech ko eh..hehe un first post po un build ko tlga...rammer mado type..with arm cannon at cold slower skill...support mado for the fact na may CS at AC ako..tpos killer po pag SD na,pde ring RAMMER..and can also be a breaker with 193 attckspeed na kaya kong ireach, at crit din po yan...parang GX lng...hehe
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
isa pang napansin ko sa skill na to habang pinapanuod ang ibang mga SD mechs e ung ability na maicast to ng mabilis at ma release to ng wlang masyadong nkakapansin.. i think kailangn tlagang i consider ang dex since nkaka apekto un sa casting time ng SD.. i will further research kung ang casting time ng SD ay may fixed cast time attribute dahil malaking bagay to... i'll play with my mech and keep u posted guys kung anu man ang mga findings ko... i might ask a couple of you to be participants para ma gauge natin kung hanggang saan ang kaya ng skill na to.. ^_^
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
ala daw po sir concern ang dex sa cast nya..hehe nbasa ko n po sa forums eh...un isang mech na kilala sa forums,pure mado type kasi...SD din,tpos sabe nadin nya na kaya xa nag 1dex kasi fix naman daw tlga un sa cast time ng SD eh..hehe pero if u still want to try, go..hehe share lng po ako ng nabasa ko..^_^
(gx,mech,gene,sura-mga binasahan at pinaglaanan ng panahon n threads..hehe)
(gx,mech,gene,sura-mga binasahan at pinaglaanan ng panahon n threads..hehe)
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
@rjo: aww daming threads na sinusubaybayan mo ah? Hehe ok yan knowledge is power, and knowing your enemy is half the battle. Ako RG thread lang e. Minsan dumadaan ako sa ibang jobclass para alamin kung namomroblema sila sa RG, para ma-counter yung counter nila. :))
MagneXXII- Prime Council
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Age : 40
Location : Tristram
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
hehe masaya po magbasa eh..nung early times ng pagraragna ko po nagtataka ako bkit ang hilig magbasa ng forums ng barkada(malakas at magaling magisip un pagdating sa ragna eh)...naun n nagbabasa nko,alam ko n kung bkit mahilig xa.hehe masarap tlga magbasa,at marame ngang matututunan..hehe pati pala RK at Ranger inaalam ko ng konti dahil sa bro ko at kay liit...iun..hehe try
with regards sa gx,gene,mech,sura at minstrel threads,kaya ako nagbasa kasi meron ako nung mga characters n yan eh..hehe ayoko gumawa nlng basta basta,kay nagbabasa po ako..hehe
at masasabe ko pong malaki ang naitutulong nya ^_^
my mga nagamit rin in real game combat sa mga nabasa ko..hehe
with regards sa gx,gene,mech,sura at minstrel threads,kaya ako nagbasa kasi meron ako nung mga characters n yan eh..hehe ayoko gumawa nlng basta basta,kay nagbabasa po ako..hehe
at masasabe ko pong malaki ang naitutulong nya ^_^
my mga nagamit rin in real game combat sa mga nabasa ko..hehe
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
sakit SD nito ni rjo, 99k natikman ko e!
Ferry Kaith- Miles
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Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
@rjo..
i would like you to check this post
http://forums.irowiki.org/showpost.php?p=1008690&postcount=112
i'll do a time trial test of a mado with dex equips, dex buffs, dex fuds and other possible factors that would affect cast time..
napansin ko kasi to dun sa mga MECHs ng ibang guild specially sa MECH ng sentinels na ang SD nila ay around 1 to 2 sec lng ang casting..
i would like you to check this post
http://forums.irowiki.org/showpost.php?p=1008690&postcount=112
i'll do a time trial test of a mado with dex equips, dex buffs, dex fuds and other possible factors that would affect cast time..
napansin ko kasi to dun sa mga MECHs ng ibang guild specially sa MECH ng sentinels na ang SD nila ay around 1 to 2 sec lng ang casting..
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
eto po,nagmessage ako kay ayeant,player ng pRO,valk server..natesting n nya n po un 1dex mech eh...
eto sabe ko:
hi sir,dati kasi may nabasa akong post mo about sa 1dex SD type mecha eh..hindi ko n xa mkita...eh may issue kasi ako sa frend ko na hindi pala affected ng dex ang cast time ng SD..anu po ba tlga...advisable p po ba maghigh dex para sa SD or useless tlga xa..
http://forums.irowik...0&postcount=112
pinkita nya rin kasi tong thread n nkita nya..eh ikaw po,base sa pRO,mkakahelp b ang dex sa mabilis na cast ng SD???
salamat po
eto naman reply nya:
fixed cast time lng po SD, secrament lng mkkreduce ng cast time nya... kya OK lng 1dex... kso ang pang attack mo lng ay Arm Cannon, yan lng kc no miss... pede mo p rin itira iba s alam mong wala AGI. minsan kc tumatama ang cold slower.... pero advice ko lng kung mag 1dex ang gusto mo dpat 150/50 kna kc mhirap ipalvl yan, sk for WoE lng tlg ang 1dex...
e2 pl Build ng 1dex Mech ko, pr mag k idea kyo...
Vit 120
Int 115
Str 93
Luk 9 (pr s attack optimizer)
sure dead lhat ng tatamaan ng SD...
til now 1dex p rin Main ko...
...ayan po..hehe hindi ko alm kung satin sa pRO my floating cast p xa?anu po b kaya?haha..pero sinusubukan nyo nmn na eh..hehe testing lng ng testing..hehe gud day sir..^_^ sana maramdaman ko rin un SD mo GM bry..hehe
eto sabe ko:
hi sir,dati kasi may nabasa akong post mo about sa 1dex SD type mecha eh..hindi ko n xa mkita...eh may issue kasi ako sa frend ko na hindi pala affected ng dex ang cast time ng SD..anu po ba tlga...advisable p po ba maghigh dex para sa SD or useless tlga xa..
http://forums.irowik...0&postcount=112
pinkita nya rin kasi tong thread n nkita nya..eh ikaw po,base sa pRO,mkakahelp b ang dex sa mabilis na cast ng SD???
salamat po
eto naman reply nya:
fixed cast time lng po SD, secrament lng mkkreduce ng cast time nya... kya OK lng 1dex... kso ang pang attack mo lng ay Arm Cannon, yan lng kc no miss... pede mo p rin itira iba s alam mong wala AGI. minsan kc tumatama ang cold slower.... pero advice ko lng kung mag 1dex ang gusto mo dpat 150/50 kna kc mhirap ipalvl yan, sk for WoE lng tlg ang 1dex...
e2 pl Build ng 1dex Mech ko, pr mag k idea kyo...
Vit 120
Int 115
Str 93
Luk 9 (pr s attack optimizer)
sure dead lhat ng tatamaan ng SD...
til now 1dex p rin Main ko...
...ayan po..hehe hindi ko alm kung satin sa pRO my floating cast p xa?anu po b kaya?haha..pero sinusubukan nyo nmn na eh..hehe testing lng ng testing..hehe gud day sir..^_^ sana maramdaman ko rin un SD mo GM bry..hehe
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gamitin mo mecha mo next siege watch ko lng rjo :) go rjo! haha
reinierml- War General
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Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
LOL low level un mech ko..hehe 120 lng yun eh..un sura ko pinapalevel ko naun eh..hehe un ung nxt...
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
Ayun ganda ng thread thanks at least ngayon naliwanagan na ako kung anu ba talagang build ang dapat kong gawin, thinking of building a
STR 100 + 6
AGI 97 + 3
Dex 48 + 3
Int 85 + 5
Vit 103 + 7
Luk 2 + 5
And base dun sa formula, 75,104 ang damage ng SD ko wala pang defense reduction, also wala pang hp equips yan or any equips, uhm questions
Yung DEX ba sakto na para sa mga characters na hindi katulad ng GX ang FLEE?
Second Yung ASPD ba nitong build na to, ay pwede ng pang breaker, naka windhawk, plus adrenaline rush plus berserk pots
Sana po may makasagot thanks :D
STR 100 + 6
AGI 97 + 3
Dex 48 + 3
Int 85 + 5
Vit 103 + 7
Luk 2 + 5
And base dun sa formula, 75,104 ang damage ng SD ko wala pang defense reduction, also wala pang hp equips yan or any equips, uhm questions
Yung DEX ba sakto na para sa mga characters na hindi katulad ng GX ang FLEE?
Second Yung ASPD ba nitong build na to, ay pwede ng pang breaker, naka windhawk, plus adrenaline rush plus berserk pots
Sana po may makasagot thanks :D
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Age : 33
Location : Comodo Island
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
aga-bkit???anu yun???
zero-ah pde ng breaker yan..pero un akin breaker tlga,,crit type..wakokokoko...gusto ko lng na gnun xa..hahaha
zero-ah pde ng breaker yan..pero un akin breaker tlga,,crit type..wakokokoko...gusto ko lng na gnun xa..hahaha
Re: SUICIDAL DESTRUCTION
@zero..
it depends kung anu klaseng mech ba ang balak mu... r u planning na mag MADO mech or axe mech? dun ntin pwede i justify ang stats na binigay mu..
it depends kung anu klaseng mech ba ang balak mu... r u planning na mag MADO mech or axe mech? dun ntin pwede i justify ang stats na binigay mu..
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@kuya bry Parehas hehe since gusto ko yung dedepende yung role ko sa situation eh, pag kelangan mag break switch to breaker mode, kung kelangan ng enemy control mado mode, anyways Ill be researching din ng iba pang tips hehe interesting tong gundam pilot na to eh haha
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